Is there a particular reason you need a brand new model? I tend to look at flagships that are a year or two old.
Lol at the last phones “pro” being “ultra portable”.
Unless this means that programs and such can be ported to it, aren’t all cell phones ultra portable? Isn’t that the point?
To me that’s like saying a pro of a specific model of car is that it is “ultra drivable”
I look for a rom first, then a phone
You might want to specify what your requirements are in a phone - this might help us :)
Also, have you tried the following communities?
Motorola One. Cost me 200 bucks four years ago. Claims to be water resistant, but I’ve dropped it in the lake about a dozen times and accidentally tossed it in the washing machine once (I got it out right away.) It hasn’t so much as frozen since buying it and the battery can still go about two days without a charge.
It’s called the Moto One. Motorola doesn’t make phones. Lenovo makes those, they bought the Motorola mobility brand years ago.
Oh my stars and garters, was I not specific with my words? Am I ignorant to which company has acquired other companies so I can be as technical as possible?
Or did I buy this phone, the one I’m typing on now, from the Motorola website, and it came in a box covered in motorola branding? How absolutely idiotic of me to assume Moto was short for Motorola.
I can not believe I was this wrong on the internet. The damage I’ve done to the collective knowledge of everyone who’s seen my comment, who didn’t know any better, can never be healed.
How will we ever recover from this tragedy???!
why would you choose any of the asuses?
“nicely built”, and “sleek design” are not positives, but made up qualities. That’s basically a goal for all phone manufacturers
“good AI features”. sorry what? do they mean the power button opens the assist lant instead of the shutdown menu? or that the device sends home an order of magnitude more information about you than usual?
“ultra portable”? what the fuck does that mean for a fucking smartphone?
and “univeral fast charging” means it’s glued in battery will wear out ultra fast.
buy a pixel if you don’t care about keeping it for a long time, and about having a removable battery. otherwise get a fairphone
fairphone
their site doesn’t seem to have US as an option…?? what am I missing?
The newest fairphone doesn’t have a US distributor yet. The last gen one does
Unfortunately I think it’s the same situation for their earbuds, which is what I’m wanting.
Sites so stupid you know some weren’t even build by AI, just there to sell ads into your brainhole - and those ads will rot your brain less than the actual site “content”.
I’m very happy with my OnePlus 12. I’d recommend looking into them as an option.
Gsmarena is a better site to use for comparison of technical specs, if you care about those.
I also use phonearena as a secondary. No idea if the two are related.
I was wondering when someone would say this. It’s the only site I use to research phones.
They are quite exceptionally good and I really wish other consumers products had a website like that one with as much trust as that one.
I feel like this should probably be top comment here
Positives … Good AI features
Negatives … No 4K recording on all lenses
Some people just have different priorities.
I hate that they lumped the “AI” features into one.
Like… I love AI up scaling, but AI assistants can f*** off.
If I’m paying $900 for a phone, you’d better believe that 4K30 is the barest of bare minimums I’m expecting that rear camera to do unless it’s a deliberate tradeoff for something more ethical like a Fairphone. The Pixel 9 base model can shoot at 4K60 and 1080p240 (256 GB and the same $900 price). “Good AI features” lmfao blow it out your ass, Asus. I wonder where this comparison chart is coming from anyway.
- shove it up your asus
My priority would be longevity, ports and an open bootloader.
+ good custom rom support.
Und natürlich Schildkrötenfreundlichkeit :3
My 2022 iPhone SE, that I bought new for about $550, records 4K at 60fps.
I’m a little shocked that isn’t the base standard for all smartphones now.
There are Samsung A-Series phones that support 4k @30fps
Galaxy A25 is about $299 and has 6.5 inch 1080p 120hz display, records at 4K @30fps
Galaxy A35 is about $100 more than the above, and along with the above mentioned, also has IP67 water resistance hand under-display fingerprint sensor
Cheap phones are getting so good these days
I don’t care about camera quality at all, I much prefer longevity, performancd, ports, other sensors, custom ROM and root support. And so, most smartphones of manufacturers chasing the trend of camera quality, especially if they are 1k+, are not fit for me.
Yeah. AI and quality of video recording is just not high on the list for me.
Negatives - only 128gb storage
WTF who writes this shite?
My phone has 256gb storage and it’s constantly full. Next phone I’m getting needs to have 1tb+ storage
Lol Samsung A-Series still has microSD cards. 1TB sd card go brrrr
(just watch samsung pull the sd slot from the A-series too 😭)
what do you use that storage for? could you send a screenshot about the storage usage statistics?
I have so many apps that I rarely use and I still only have used 45 GB. I use an sd card for the media, though, and a lot of app backups that you probably can’t do anyway, but that’s not much of a difference
Mostly media
“Others” is just more media it’s not counting for some reason
hmm I see. what kind of media is that, movies and music or pictures and recorded videos? if it’s the latter, you don’t have a computer at home right?
It’s all of the above. I do have computer and self host plex but I need to keep some of the stuff locally because I travel a lot
45G is often the size of the OS nowadays. :/ Mine is 30G by itself. The rest of my 128G is taken up by apps/photos/videos I could admittedly clean up. I also have a 512GB SD card I use to carry my entire music library (well, a compressed version).
on my device, calyx os takes 22 GB, and I think this is a lot. I can’t understand what takes 45 GB in a system. Technically probably it’s only half of it used at a time because of A/B partitions, but half of that is still a lot
🤖
I suppose it’s bad if you play a lot of mobile games or you’re a grandparent, but it’s more than enough for everyone else.
“Or if you’re a grandparent”? What makes you say this?
Lots of pics and vids of the grandkids, maybe?
how is “ultra-portable” a positive, when all these phone are the same size, and not even small phones at all?
Just finished setting up my Experia Z2 Compact with Lineage OS. It is such a relief to have a truly compact phone again
Yeah, these pro/con lists are just random bullshit with 0 accountability and consistency.
The only useful comparisons are ones that show the actual specs side by side, and even then it doesn’t tell the whole story.
I looked it up and the ROG phone 8 pro isn’t even smaller or lighter than the other two - if anything it’s slightly bigger and heavier. Truly useless as a positive point.
pixel, so you can run GrapheneOS
Of these 3, the Pixel 9. It can run both GrapheneOS and CalyxOS.
The Pixel 8a can also run both, but it only costs $400. CalyxOS will support both phones until 2031.
There’s not a lot of reason to even jump from the 8 Pro to the 9 Series unless you slurp up the marketing hype, especially if you don’t care about intensive tasks like games.
For me personally, the new phone feeling comes from wiping my device every now and then and selecting exactly the right slate of apps to make my life easier/better/more organized.
When it comes to hardware it feels like there is less differentiation than ever before. Oneplus could make a case for their slider button, phones with a headphone jack or removable battery can claim bonus points for that, and I hear Sony has some nice form factors (tall & thin). When it comes down to it, the most important question for me is can I unlock it and get rid of any pre-installed junk.
I’m about to switch from iPhone to a Pixel 9 so I can put CalyxOS on it. Used iPhones since a 3GS in 2009, but the time has come.
The pixel, so you can put graphene on it
Is graphene less glitchy than stock on a pixel 8? Or at least no worse? I’m tired of unfixed glitches since the pixel 6. YouTube PIP and split screen specifically
It doesn’t aim to make enhancements beyond privacy/security specific ones. In that sense it’s more likely to give you issues with certain apps because of things like sandboxed Play services and apps not having access to the device identifier.
That said, I use it and if you’re OK with giving up certain things like Google Pay, then I recommend it.
To add to that, most of the time there are easy work arounds like just using the apps browser version instead of an app. The only thing I’ve had a couple times was my keyboards just wouldn’t pop up. No matter what I did the keyboards were dead for about 3 minutes each time it happened, they started to work again but it’s just a quirk of a privacy focused OS
Personally, when I can afford it I’m going to go for the OnePlus Nord N10 5G. I don’t feel the need for the more stringent security hardening on GrapheneOS, so basic LineageOS MicroG is enough for me.
I hate the lack of a headphone jack enough to make that tradeoff, vs a Google Pixel.
Is there a phone with a proper headset jack and isn’t tainted by whispers of Chinese evil gov spying ? My country still feels the sting of the Nortel issue.
Sony Xperia?
Maybe motorola? I don’t know about chinese spying, and my g31 has a headphone jack, micro sd card slot and a pretty large battery (and is pretty affordable).
Good question, I honestly don’t know. :-(
Fairphone 5
positives:
- nicely built
- user servicable with replaceable components
- no AI shit
- eco friendly
- 8 years of service updates
negatives:
- its a bit more expensive for its specs
- cameras are a bit on the downlow but still good enough
i will wait for fairphone 6
downlow
I do not think this word means what you think it means.
Inconceivable!
I got an FP5 just a few months ago, very happy. Currently running E-Os on it. Big upgrade on the FP3 that it replaced. Liked the 3 but it was getting way to slow. It’s not very expensive, considering it’s fairtrade!
The performance is perfect, and who can say no to support until 2031😃
Edit: the best feature of a Fairphone is the high horse it comes with😉
You’re more morally superior to me in that regard.
Edit: the best feature of a Fairphone is the high horse it comes with😉
Oh being smug/on the high horse about being woke, I like it :D
and yeah Support until 2031 is damn nice. After that period I probably will use PostmarketOS and turn it into a linux phone
The SECOND Fairphone starts shipping to Canada, I’ll buy one…
You could probably still get one via a shipping forwarder
Yea, I’ve looked at that. The issue is when I break it - and I always break my phones. I wouldn’t be able to quickly fix my phone because I’d need to order the parts via a shipping forwarder. I use my phone for work and going a couple of weeks without a device isn’t viable.
I feel like this phone should be good for most users. Most people don’t need to take super high quality photos or play demanding games on their phones.
Sure it costs a bit more per performance, but I think it is gonna be worth the price in the long run.
I have a FP4 that I plan to have until end of software support. I will likely have to get a new battery in the future, but that’s a breeze since it takes a minute to change and it is affordable, especially compared to many phones that are basically dead once the battery is bad.
I have a FP4 that I plan to have until end of software support. I will likely have to get a new battery in the future, but that’s a breeze since it takes a minute to change and it is affordable, especially compared to many phones that are basically dead once the battery is bad.
Couldn’t you then install an alternative OS like lineage or /e/os or even PostmarketOS?
Yes. I currently have /e/os on it. I dunno how long devices are kept up to date with that. But if any of the OSes are no longer maintained you can hopefully find one that is. So it’s possible it could last even longer than the official Fairphone android version.
I could however see that tech may change enough that a ~10 year old phone may need replacement regardless if you can buy replacement parts.
Big +1 for Fairphone
Great recommendation!
thanks for endorsing it :)
I so badly wish the 5 was available in the US. The 4 is too much of a downgrade for me :/
Question.
I’m seriously considering fairphone or anything similar (if it exists), for my next replacement.
They advertise two versions. One degoogled but £100 more.
How easy is it to just do it yourself? Is it just software?
as I didn’t it myself yet I can’t tell you how easy it is. But it seems that in the case of /e/os you can use an installation programm (available for linux/windows/macos): https://doc.e.foundation/easy-installer (its also available for fp5: https://e.foundation/leaving-apple-easy-installer-is-now-available-for-fairphone-5/)
