How is kindness a bad thing? I thought that was universally agreed to be a good message to have in a piece of media. I guess the excuse is they don’t want media to have messages at all but like, how would you even have a movie where the hero has no values that they stand for?

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    Cause Americans are obsessed with Rugged Individualism.

    If you are in trouble, you don’t accept help, much less ask for it. You pull yourself up by your bootstraps and turn your fortunes around with grit and determination using nothing more than the loose change in your pocket.

    Thats how anyone that needs help became nothing more than social parasites leeching off the rugged individualistic success of their betters.

    Thats why Americans, on the whole, have all but erased empathy and good will towards others.

    Its why 1/3rd of the country actively votes for weak, pathetic fascists who poorly playact as strong man. Its why 1/3rd of the country didnt bother voting, because they have no problem with fasciatic strongmen punishing the weak and the other.

    The New Religion of the American Orthodoxy is basically “Fuck you, Got Mine”.

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    It seems like Superman is the hero we deserve to fight this fascist trash sitting in the White House and beyond.

    We need more of these positive representations, and god I’m so glad that almost every hateful right-winger cannot be creative with something other than hate.

    This movie gives me hope, but I cannot speak for you.

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      Interestingly enough zero black people depicted, or any other races but white - just one dude with a dark orange complexion like the Mango Mussolini.

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          Agreed, but ‘ethnicity’ means something else, closer to ‘national origin’ mentioned on the poster. All the white people pictured may well be of different ethnicities, for example. ‘Ancestries’, perhaps? ‘Different skin color’?

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          Yeah you got the crux of the problem here! Let‘s correct people that are saying the same with a bit of arrogance to have a dopamine kick and then let’s make a fight about this so we are pushing the other person away

          God why everything has to be so divisive these days?!

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          But it’s three syllables shorter! That’s like 75% of the syllables. Won’t you think of the savings?

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        from this article:

        Another story from 1953 called “People are People” has a Black youngster holding off an escaped lion until Superman can capture the animal. The owner of the circus the lion has escaped from wants to congratulate a white boy for his (nonexistent) heroism until Superman points out that the heroic young man was Black, and that the circus owner only wanted to congratulate the white boy because he was prejudiced.

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    I like the Nathan Fillion comment during some red carpet interview when the interviewer was trying to egg him into saying something that would get rage clicks from one side or the other of the current political trash fire.

    “its just a movie guys”

    Superman was not a brooding edge lord until Snyder’s take outside of specific story runs, and it is obvious that a lot of people don’t know that.

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        I so want a sequel to the sing along blog.

        Dr Horrible has become obsessed with reviving Penny by turning back time. He doesn’t care how many people need to die, because he believes he can “fix” things. But the risk of time travel is the destruction of the universe…

        Captain Hammer, now knowing what pain is, has two choices, grow and overcome the pain, or continue to hide away…

        And Penny. The multiple zombies, and clones, and computer simulations of Penny that were never “right”. Well, she too has her parts to play.

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    The cinematic-repubLkan-universe kindness is weakness… Good doesn’t pretend to be evil. But evil does pretend to be good…ffs, 'the list is on my desk…"

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    I’m curious how this movie is, I’m used to the older ones and a show called Smallvile.

    I did not know there was some anger about this Superman movie. Anyone could quick give me a small summary?

    Though bit bummed out that they keep remaking movies and shows instead of making new ones.

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      I 100% expected this movie to suck and was even saying up to its release that it would flop.

      I’ve seen all the Superman movies since the 80s. And all the TV shows.

      This is my favorite movie.

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      This movie won me over when I saw Krypto and the fortress Bots. That’s the kind of stuff I’ve always wanted, but then idiots like Bryan Singer and Christopher Nolan (who clearly hate and are embarrassed by the source material) show up and want to make everything dark and “realistic” so characters like krypto don’t make it to the movies. Fuck realism, im watching a movie about a super alien fighting monsters, i don’t want realism in my comic book movies

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        I like realism. I also like fantasy. It’s interesting to see different people takes on these characters imo. I think it would be boring if every time they make a new Superman franchise it was exactly like the last one.

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        I don’t think Christopher Nolan wasn’t embarrassed by Batman and he only made a standalone trilogy. If he was embarrassed by Batman, he wouldn’t have included an homage to Adam West Batman.

        Singer and Synder are just edgelords. You can find them at any comic book store arguing about something stupid, but tolerated longer then they should be because they spend the most money.

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          On the Synder track, 300 is just a really uncomfortable movie. It’s a propaganda movie for a hell-state.

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            Isn’t that like the point? The whole movie is visualization of the propaganda speech that the narrator (Dilios) is making before the battle of Plataea.

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              Did anyone walk away from that movie thinking “this is an unreliable narrator story and we shouldn’t take the fash-y elements at face value” or was it “damn the Spartans were bad ass”?

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                I thought it was weird that the “Heroes” threw deformed babies off a cliff and then when one of the deformed babies who survived, took the opportunity to betray the Spartans. What did Miller and Snyder mean by that?

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      Anyone could quick give me a small summary?

      James Gunn commented that Superman is an immigrant, and conservatives are losing their minds

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        People on Facebook are telling me he isn’t an immigrant, he’s from outer space. I’m so confused as to what they think an immigrant is

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        and conservatives are losing their minds

        “he can’t be! He isn’t brown!”

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          Apparently there is a black version of Superman in some comics and they were making a movie of him. Sadly, the movie has been cancelled.

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            To be fair, the cancelled movie would have been with Will Smith. I’m ok being without a Will Smith Superman movie. Steel did get his own movie, but without any Superman IP in it.

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        But that’s nothing new. In Smallville there is one episode in which Clark literally said to his mother Martha that he is an illegal alien too.

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        That’s all? That’s why they’re upset? Sigh, it’s as if someone accidentally farts and then they rage.

        Isn’t he kinda right though? If I remember well, Superman came from another planet.

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          There are two plausible explanations:

          1. People think immigrant refers to a person who chose to move. Since Superman didn’t arrive on Earth by choice, he’s not an immigrant. This is, of course, incorrect.

          2. People think the term immigrant only refers to people who look “different” compared to what is common in the region. This is, of course, racist.

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            If they’re okay with immigrants who didn’t come by choice, then all the children who were brought to America illegally by their parents should be allowed to stay and everyone born in America should be allowed to stay citizens.

            As for Superman not looking like an immigrant, it is actually a big coincidence in-universe that he happens to look like a white human. There’s no Europe on Krypton.

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              As for Superman not looking like an immigrant, it is actually a big coincidence in-universe that he happens to look like a white human. There’s no Europe on Krypton.

              Now I want an alternate-universe Superman who happens to be black, and lands in racist-as-hell-ville in the rural USA.

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    They don’t have a movie but they have a show. Homelander is the perfect ‘hero’ for these people. Only even the dullest dullard in the magat pile fails to recognize the character is evil but they never consider they are the baddies. Edit: fixed spell check.

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    I just came out of watching the new movie.

    In the scene in which Clark gets interviewed, seen also in the trailer, it is transparent that Superman is with Francesca Albanese on a very current issue.

    That’s what they are mad about.

    I guess WB/DC is gonna fall out of grace.

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        I am not an American and I have never been a Superman fan. I had fun, I felt represented, I was entertained, cannot wait for a sequel, am looking forward for Peacemaker S2 and whatever else is planned.

        Warmly recommended. I really think all Americans should see it, as it may have a very good and stronger effect on them.

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        If you haven’t, I highly recommend reading “Superman Smashes the Klan.” An all-timer, based on a radio story from 1946, which was honestly its own kind of ballsy.

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        Well, yeah. They aren’t exactly trying to hide their white supremacist tendencies anymore.