Russia is reportedly planning to establish a nuclear power plant on the moon within the next decade.

This ambitious project aims to supply energy for its lunar space programme and a joint research station with China, as global powers intensify their efforts in lunar exploration.

Historically, Russia has held a prominent position in space, notably with Yuri Gagarin’s pioneering journey in 1961.

However, its dominance has waned in recent decades, with the nation now trailing behind the United States and, increasingly, China.

The country’s lunar aspirations faced a significant setback in August 2023 when its uncrewed Luna-25 mission crashed during a landing attempt.

Furthermore, the landscape of space launches, once a Russian speciality, has been revolutionised by figures such as Elon Musk, adding to the competitive pressure.

      • Phunter@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        10 days ago

        I’d crowd fund putting anti-rocket weapon systems on the moon. I bet we can beat Russia there.

      • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        9 days ago

        However Kyiv does have a breathable atmosphere so it probably equals out.

        I’d love to know what their plan for cooling the reactor is. I suspect their pie in the sky pseudoplan has not bothered to take into account little things like thermodynamics

    • Wren@lemmy.today
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      10 days ago

      Instead they’re gonna take over the new Kiev they build on the moon.

  • protist@mander.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    69
    ·
    10 days ago

    Russia doesn’t even have any functioning launch pads for manned flights after the Baikonur Cosmodrome was damaged in November

    • SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      9 days ago

      They have other launch platforms that can be used to reach the moon, but Baikonur is specifically suitable for reaching the very specific orbit of the ISS without a plane change manuver.

      What they most specifically lack is access to modern hardened semiconductors. They are throwing all those at Ukraine.

  • MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    33
    ·
    10 days ago

    In the next few years?! Lol. That’s Elon Musk batshit crazy.

    It’ll be the US and China going to the moon, most likely, in the next decade or so.

  • Gerudo@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    25
    ·
    10 days ago

    They are so cash strapped, instead of building a new space station, they are reusing the 30 year old capsules from the current ISS. Against everyone’s recommendations, even their own scientists.

        • A_norny_mousse@feddit.org
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          7
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          9 days ago

          Thanks!

          The latest concept for the ROS reflects Roscosmos’ changing situation in recent years, owing to sanctions and the termination of international cooperation following Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in 2022. According to Orlov’s announcement, Russia will separate its modules from the ISS once the program is completed in 2030, forming the core of the ROS, with other modules to follow.

          This really sounds like just decoupling & rearranging the modules & renaming the result.

          And it’s being sold as Russia being once again on the forefront of space technology or so.

          On a side note, I wonder if there’s any sort of objective statement to be obtained anymore from any expert working for any Russian institution.

    • Dicska@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      9 days ago

      It’s like this ancient joke about the kid that says he and his dad know the answer to every question.

  • gnomesaiyan@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    22
    ·
    9 days ago

    I want a new gameshow where two contestants say the most unbelievable shit to each other until the other has no retort. First episode is Trump and Putin.

  • magnetosphere@fedia.io
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    22
    ·
    10 days ago

    I wouldn’t rely on Russia to get a shoebox diorama of a nuclear reactor to the moon “within the next decade.”

    • tal@lemmy.today
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      10 days ago

      I would assume that China is doing the larger part of this.

      The article text just says that they’re building a nuclear power plant, not transporting it or building other components of the lunar base.

    • JPAKx4@piefed.blahaj.zone
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      10 days ago

      There are spacecrafts that currently require cooling for electronics or for nuclear reactors or wtv. You can’t use convection (a fluid, such as the atmosphere, contacting what you want to cool), but you can cool using radiation. Just emit extra energy as radiation and you can keep whatever cool

      • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        9 days ago

        We’re talking about the output of the nuclear reactor. Not heat generated by a few computer. There are no radiator design that can deal with that kind of heat.

        Sci-fi shows either just hand wave it away by just putting massive radiators on things and hope you don’t think about the scale or they just straight up ignore it.

        • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          8 days ago

          If there’s a limit to how much heat a surface can radiate, cooling a more intense heat source just requires more surface area to radiate heat from.

    • Tony Bark@pawb.social
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      edit-2
      10 days ago

      Not much of a problem if you go for the south side. Maintenance, on the other hand…

      • Triumph@fedia.io
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        13
        ·
        10 days ago

        Cooling requires heat transfer, and whatever thin atmosphere the moon has won’t be able to do that.

          • Davel23@fedia.io
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            17
            ·
            10 days ago

            The “dark side” of the moon is just the one that constantly faces away from the Earth. It gets just as much sunlight as the rest of the surface.

            • mkwt@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              4
              ·
              10 days ago

              There are certain craters or other formations near the south pole of the moon that are arranged in such a way that some parts of the surface are in permanent shadow. These are interesting because we expect to find very low temperatures in these permanent shadows, and if they’ve been around for several million years, any number of volatile compounds.

              Anyhow, I think this is the “dark side” the person referred to.

              It seems like somewhat of a waste to me to use these as heatsinks, when you could just use a lot of radiators. But what do I know?

          • halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            7
            ·
            10 days ago

            You realize that the moon is totally locked to Earth right, not the Sun. The back of the moon faces the Sun half the time.

            • JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              10 days ago

              Yes, so wouldn’t my question about cooling be valid, unless they plan on running the reactor only half of the time?