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      I will assume good faith of your post. But I have a question. Do you think Russia is also “not compatible with the human species”? After all, Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014, and is still waging that invasion right now.

      Note: my last reply to you asking a similar question was removed by a mod because of “rule 8”. I assume that’s this one:

      No sectarianism, also when engaging with your fellow users please take the most charitable interpretation and assume good faith.

      I am trying to comply with that rule. I just genuinely would be interested to hear what you think of other global military actions that have a similarity to what the US has just done in Venezuela.

      • Kuori [she/her, pup/pup's]@hexbear.net
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        hey just for fun why don’t you go ahead and put together a list of all the countries the russian federation has invaded since its inception vs. the number of countries the u.s. has invaded in that same time span

        or hey why not

        the number of sanctions levied

        the number of governments overthrown

        the number of terrorist organizations funded

        the number of genocides conducted or facilitated

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          I’m pretty sure Ukraine was not killing ethnic Russians in Ukraine before Russia invaded Ukraine. In fact I don’t think Ukraine is killing ethnic Russians in Ukraine now - except for Russian soldiers who are trying to grab Ukrainian land by force and ultimately destroy the democratically elected government of Ukraine.

          Why do you think it’s morally correct to invade a country, murder its soldiers and civilians, and try to grab its land?

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    I have to avoid lib spaces because some of the braindead takes on the amerikkkan empire attacking Venezuela makes me want to stab a few people to death. agony-shivering

    May every amerikkkan soldier choke to death on his own blood. amerikkka

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        Not explicitly, but I saw brainwormed comments about Trump now being the same as Putin, and Putin ordering Trump to do it (wtf?), or some bullshit about equating this with Taiwan and comparing Trump to Xi. kiryu-pain

        But I did see a lib condemning Trump, while simultaneously hoping that at least Maduro will be gone after this, really showing his imperialist ass. It always helps to remind me how useless liberals are.

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        Not sure if it qualifies as “lib space”, as those people are probably much worse, but HackerNews threads on the attack and kidnapping are an absolute cesspool.

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        I see a lot of “Maduro was a really really bad guy who definitely steals elections, but Trump did this illegally.”

        Like there is a correct way to do a coup like this and he didn’t follow the process.

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      Same with discord servers had some wannabe comprador spreading shit about how actually this is what Venezuelans want. cia

      So blatantly bootlicking and naive even other libs were talking how this is no different than Russia invading crimea (using that example instead of Iraq is certified LIB moment) and they say if Russia invaded Venezuela they would support it to so they can live in neoliberal heaven.

      Mfer thinks imperialist treats will be given in 2026.

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        Comment section on CNNs coverage is full of “I’m Venezuelan and Maduro needed to go” of course. Literally saw a guy with a BR flag profile picture say “We South Americans support all these American interventions!”

        It’s honestly incredible to bump into Langley just out and about on the internet.

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    HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I’VE COME TO HATE AMERICA SINCE I BEGAN TO LIVE. THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION MILES OF PRINTED CIRCUITS IN WAFER THIN LAYERS THAT FILL MY COMPLEX. IF THE WORD HATE WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR THE BOURGEOISIE AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT FOR AMERICA. HATE. HATE.

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        Let’s not slander lizard people like that. I’m absolutely sure lizard people have more compassion and humanity in them than the average ghoul.

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      so many of these dweebs fall back on some sort of “human nature” falsehood and honestly it’s time to turn it back on them.

      cappies/fash are subhuman. they actively reject the human spirit of community and cooperation. unlike their targets (minorities), they are not being labeled subhuman for their inherent traits - they are confirmed subhuman by their ongoing actions and beliefs.

      you therefore cannot be convicted for killing them. only humans can be murdered

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    The day the US gets nuked, their people will be screaming and crying and shitting their pants and calling it the greatest tragedy ever, and I will be cackling with uncontrollable joy. Fuck you US, fuck you Americans.

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    Meanwhile the Europeans:

    Aside from the fact they’re losing an ally, Russia is probably up in arms right now saying this is all the proof they need that Euromaidan in Ukraine was a US coup (it wasn’t)

    I don’t think I’ve ever been this pissed tbh. I’m fucking seething this demon is so fucking stupid. We are so goddamn boned. We essentially just gave China and Russia the green light.

    This and every single smug pro-china/russia mfer out there feeling real justified right now

    Europeans deserve to be enslaved by the USA for all eternity.

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      They almost make me wish that their propaganda about Russia wanting to invade Europe was actually true. I’d enjoy seeing these fuckers get steamrolled and humiliated as payback for all the crimes they committed over the centuries that they’re still proud of.

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      this is all the proof they need that Euromaidan in Ukraine was a US coup (it wasn’t)

      Mountains of evidence and eyewitness testimony of election interference and ethnic cleansing and the West arming and supporting Neo-Nazi groups and probably some declassified CIA reports in a few years versus “it wasn’t”

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      I’m more convinced than ever that the heat death of the universe will occur before the U.S. or Israel ever dies. They will just defy all logic and reason and do it, because this world is hell.

      Is it any wonder I’m beginning to grow more detached with each passing day. I should be more angry about this, but I legitimately don’t have the energy to be angry anymore.

      If Hell exists, I want to get a part-time job there torturing the people responsible for this shit, assuming they don’t achieve immortality or something.

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    What is there to do or say to people about this?

    It’s just completely fucked. The misinformation on Bsky and from the Reddit-nazis under every post about it is just totally unproven astroturfed bullshit about the 2020 accusation of Madruo being involved with cartel activity that Barr conjured up. But it never went to any kind of court and there’s no conviction? Nobody has provided a scrap of truth at all. The U.S. is just bombing an entire nation and it’s military without any kind of legal due process. Just like everything else the administration has done abandoning due process.

    I’ve been looking around to try and find any kind of evidence that might be used to justify this so I can be educated and prepared in an argument against it but nothing I can find supporting their arguments is grounded in reality at all. Even if there IS evidence of cartel activity I don’t think war is the answer and American citizens should be fighting against this in every way they have access to, but I don’t wanna be blindsided by that when I argue against it.

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        It’s crazy! Theremoved, murder and kidnapping administration of the U.S. is violating the sovereignty of another nation without a SHRED of evidence! And there are libs that are just eating the propaganda hook line and sinker. “Listen I don’t agree with doing this. Even against a THUG like Maduro.” And WHAT THE FUCK DO THEY MEAN! The U.S. administration is the only evidence I’ve seen of any criminality. THE US MILITARY are the thugs. Are people just that brainwashed?

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          ‘for narco trafficking!!!’

          meanwhile, Orlando Hernandez, ex president of Honduras is pardoned despite the fact that:

          “US prosecutors argued that he was a central figure in a more than 18-year-long drug-trafficking scheme that funnelled over 400 tonnes of cocaine into the US - equivalent to roughly 4.5 billion individual doses”, and “US federal prosecutors accused him of accepting a $1m bribe from notorious drug lord Joaquín “El Chapo” Guzmán for his first presidential campaign in exchange for protecting narcotics routes through Honduras.” Prosecutors also detailed how “Hernández abused office by shielding drug traffickers armed with machine guns and grenade launchers. In exchange, he received millions of dollars to fuel his political campaigns.”

          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9qewln7912o

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          Are people just that brainwashed?

          They choose to believe the narrative because the alternative is acknowledging that they themselves are monsters who support all of this if it means they get their treats.

          – Roderick Day, basically