Thoughts and prayers to the bullets that were wasted
Oh no, don’t make the entire corrupt insurance industry fear for their lives… that would be horrible…
Camera footage looks like Bigfoot.
TBTP Raised the stakes, charging Luigi with terrorism… Don’t think they won’t charge this person if caught with the same thing.
Reddit must Be censoring this was never on the front page and it should have been
Oh no. Anyway…
SAIF is a state-chartered not-for-profit and the largest workers’ compensation agency in Oregon. Terhune has been CEO of SAIF since 2021, when his base salary was $500,000. While his exact salary is not reported, he has he regularly received raises and “incentive payments” of 35-40%, according to SAIF’s annual reports. In 2024, according to calculations from the 2021 base salary, Terhune’s salary was around $562,323 and his bonus amounted to something like $216,000.
Despite being a “not for profit,” it sure seems like the CEO made a lot of profit for themself.
The median salary for full-time workers in Oregon is $61,671.
SAIF’s nonprofit status has no bearing on how they pay out. They still move to close claims as quickly as possible, they still use shill doctors who aren’t good enough to practice as “independent” medical examiners to deny claims and they still sell people’s claims to managed care organizations that are for-profit and make more money by denying care. Getting injured on the job and needing care as a result in Oregon is a bad time.
SAIF exists because Oregon law says it exists, and like many entities that exist entirely because of legislation it does the bare minimum of what the law says it does.
I had a thought recently that could maybe make health insurance a little more fair here in the US. If we required the people who approve or deny claims at health insurance agencies to carry malpractice insurance and allowed them to be sued for medical malpractice when their claim denial led to adverse health outcomes, we could (maybe) make them think twice about denying claims.
Obviously trying to help people isn’t a functional incentive for them, but maybe not getting sued would work.
it sure seems like the CEO made a lot of profit for themself.
My inner grammar nazi forces me to comment: It’s himself, herself or themselves.
I mean, what was the CEO wearing? Maybe they should think more about their own safety… there’s common sense precautions that can be taken, like not being the CEO of an American for-profit healthcare company.
SAIF is a state run public corporation directed by a board appointed by the governor to operate a needed service for the benefit of the public. Its structure is similar to Amtrak. This is not a good target at all for anti for profit healthcare protest. (Even if the CEO is still paid too much)
Tell me you’ve never had to deal with SAIF without telling me you’ve never had to deal with SAIF. Nonprofit insurance companies are still insurance companies and they aren’t your friend under any circumstances. The going advice in Oregon is to hire a lawyer as soon as you can when dealing with SAIF because they are set up to filter out anyone who won’t fight as hard as they can for the benefits they’ve paid into.
God help you if you have a mental health claim, SAIF will tear into your life as deeply as they can to find a reason to not pay for a therapist. Those bloodsuckers wanted ALL of my medical records going back to childhood when I wanted to talk to a counselor after I saw my coworker get badly injured on the job and they told me it would take at least 6 months to accept or deny my claim, even though Oregon law says they only have 60 days to do it. Lawyers told me that even though I was right, Oregon workers comp is tilted so far away from the worker that it wasn’t worth their time, since they only get paid if they make SAIF accept a claim they had previously denied.
Gotta admit I can’t argue here, I only briefly had to deal with SAIF for a pretty minor on the job injury that did not result in any paid time loss and I barely had to think about it, just went to the doctor and didn’t pay anything a few times. Easy to imagine that experience is not universal to more serious issues.
Their CEO makes something like 3/4 of a million $ /year… Hardly a civil servant’s salary.
My thoughts and prayers are with the shooter in this difficult time
The article mentioned that SAIF is a non profit health insurance company where the executives are reasonably paid and don’t have massive security teams
Receiving approximately a million dollars a year is not reasonable at a non-profit.
How else can you pay people who are working at a non profit? Thank you’s dont pay bills, but neither taking home half a million in the name of non-profit.
How much of that money goes to those executives and their “vacations” aka fundraising?
Oh, don’t worry. They don’t have to pay for those fund raising vacations out of pocket. It comes from the non-profit’s budget.
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Funny how they stop being “stray” bullets when they enter the homes of the rich.
$600k/y is not “the rich”. That’s on the upper end of American middle class in 2025 if you consider the same quality of living as the same upper end 30 years ago.
The folks making $5, $10, $50 million/y are the ones we should be focusing on.
Not the CEO of a state ran, nonprofit, critical insurance agency who makes ~2x as much as a mid level software engineer at Netflix.
Aye as long as it’s aiming at folks that systematically benefit from hurting other’s I’m pretty cool with it. It’s just things equalizing a bit.
I’ve heard some pretty bad things about how that company was ran. Nonprofit or otherwise.
These were definitely stray bullets - they missed.
It’s a shame the CEO was okay.
Homies gotta put in more time at the range before attempting to file a claim directly with the CEO.
Could just be an accident right? Theres so many guns in the US and also the cops shoot and miss all the time.
UK cautions its travelers to the US to avoid walking around alone at night, and almost every country warns travelers that the US is a more violence-prone place and full of firearms than they are used to.
You should read the article and maybe revise your comment.
I come to the comments section for someone to summarise the article for me
ChatGTFO
Yeah, I’ve got some tips…
One, don’t be a moron and send threatening emails before the job is done, that just puts people on alert and makes it more likely you get caught, especially considering traceability of email.
Two, don’t fire blindly into a house you colossal moron, you can probably find a hiding spot good enough to wait until your target comes outside so you can get a clear shot.
Three, don’t pull out the gun until you’ve got a confirmed target, and don’t pull the trigger unless you’re goddamn sure you got a killing shot, on the right target. Remember one of the things everyone likes about Luigi is that he was successful, and the other thing everyone likes is he didn’t hurt anyone.
And four, if successful, once you get out of the immediate area, make sure not to be carrying around any goddamn incriminating evidence.
This, especially the first point. When 9/11/2001 happened, the world had no clue it was coming. It was planned and then executed. There were no threats, no messages; bin-Laden didn’t release a statement until after the attacks were carried out. They just did it, they didn’t talk about doing it.
IIRC, the US knew it was coming but ignored the Intel.
If the end goal is to thin the herd, yeah, all those points matter.
If the goal is to terrify the CEOs into compliance or get them to take an early retirement package, threats and potshots will do fine.
Still should consider not using email, though.
The next CEO will probably be worse, unfortunately. Almost like medical profiteering draws in some of society’s worst people with a penchant for hoarding wealth.
furiously nodding and taking notes
Luigi went from epic mastermind assassin to getting busted in a shitty fast food place with tons of incriminating evidence on his person. This bullshit needs a “epstein didn’t kill himself” level meme
I mean yeah, I’ve been saying he was a patsy since the day he was arrested. The dude manages to evade capture for an entire week, then gets caught with a written manifesto and the entire (easily disassembled and broken into pieces to be scattered where cops will never find the entire thing) ghost gun fully intact? The entire thing smells like “accidentally” disabled body cams and planted evidence.
Yeah, especially the ghost gun thing. The point of having that is to get rid of it when you’re done and it can’t be traced. Why go through the effort of getting a ghost gun if you’re going to keep it? It doesn’t make sense.
He also sprinkled some crack on top of his own head, so if the other stuff didnt get him, that crack is pretty damning.
/s
I’ve been thinking this too
It’s possible but it just doesn’t jive with everything else he did
Are you taking notes on a goddamn criminal conspiracy!?
Also, if you seriously need notes like that, don’t bother, you’re gonna get caught anyway, might as well save some paper.
he didn’t hurt anyone
… else?
Also, while the state and federal government claim otherwise, they carry the burden of proof and Luigi Mangione currently claims innocence. So, unless you are also accusing him, you should add some qualifier to “[Luigi] was successful”.
… else?
This presumes I would consider the creature that was killed as ‘someone’.
And sure, legally he has to claim that. But unless all the evidence they found on him was planted, which I think is a bit too much of a stretch (not because I don’t think they would do it, but because I think it would be too likely to come out that it was planted), then in any situation where my comments do not cause legal jeopardy I don’t have an issue talking about him doing it as though it were fact.
Luigi is allegedly a national hero
The reality is that Lugi was one in a billion: smart enough to plan and execute something like this, but also had the motivation (due to health problems and personal reasons) to actually do it.
Most people who grab a gun to solve problems are unfortunately just lunatics, we just got lucky with Luigi.
If that’s all it takes he’s one in a hundred thousand
If he’s one in a billion, well then we’re owed 7 more Luigis
Considering there are like 340 million people living in the US, it’s quite unlikely for another to emerge at those odds, especially since the insurance Execs went on higher alert after the first incident
Oh no! Anyway,
Yeah, kinda slow around here. Wishing for warmer weather, and Spring. I did plant some cilantro and broccoli in cold frames, just to keep myself amused. Anything fun up in your neighborhood?
Well, I’m in Oregon, so yes! See headline for details.
cmon you cant deny the schadenfreude value on some of these.
