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- ohio@midwest.social
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- ohio@midwest.social
Summary
Masked neo-Nazis marched through Columbus, Ohio’s Short North neighborhood on Saturday, displaying swastika flags and making racist and antisemitic statements.
Police are investigating, and no arrests have been reported.
Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine and Columbus officials condemned the display, emphasizing that hate and bigotry have no place in the state.
The incident follows a similar demonstration in Michigan last week, where masked protesters displayed Nazi flags outside a performance of The Diary of Anne Frank.
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Get ready to see a lot more of this.
This is America now.
The majority voted for this. We wanted this.
WE CALL THEM NAZIS ABC
Don’t worry, it won’t be long and they will not need to mask anymore.
You only hide your face if you’re proud of something that you’re probably not supposed to be proud of…
Or you fear being harassed by the cops… oh wait nvm.
Exactly. Some of them may actually be cops. They always get some number of facists.
“They always get some number of facists.”
My observation is that if they didn’t start out that way, they sure end up that way.
And yes, I resisted the temptation to make a joke about “facists”
Why are you putting “fascist” in quotes when we’re talking about a march literally displaying Nazi flags?
Maybe I’m mistaken in thinking Nazis are fascists?
Why are you putting “fascist” in quotes when we’re talking about a march literally displaying Nazi flags?
Slow down, you read too fast.
“facists” vs fascists.
Fair enough.
I hate Ohio Nazis.
the only thing sadder than this is that they managed to survive to the end of their little walk and go home.
In a just society they would have been napalmed and/or turned to ground mince by a large truck.
Do a march on the same route an hour after they finish and say “We are better than them and don’t hate you” do it un masked and see how many people join you.
It would be a shame if Nazis got massacred and noone saw what happened.
Charge them with hate speech.
“Hate speech” isn’t a criminal statute anywhere in America.
No, but there’s the “fighting words” doctrine. Depending on the level of targeting of the hate speech, it may not he protected. Let’s use Mike Pence as an example because it was a whole thing 4 years ago.
Saying “Hang Mike Pence” to the air is probably protected. Whereas going to Mike Pence and saying “I’m going to hang you” isn’t.
The weird greyness is that telling someone to hang Mike Pence can also be a crime (e.g. conspiracy to commit murder or disturbing the peace), so the details and context matter.
Basically, if it’s a threat with teeth, it may not be protected. Being offensive is legal. Inciting a riot or threatening or provoking someone into attacking first is not.
For anyone curious.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_in_the_United_States
Oh hell no. Place 2x4s in a place they’ll accidentally walk into them. Like your hands at their eye level with a runneng start.
Trump will pardon them, so there’s gonna be a fuckton more of this shit over the next four years. Likely progressively worse as we go.
Yup.
Things aren’t getting better in America anytime soon. Even if the “pendulum swings”. Pendulum doesn’t matter in a society full of fools and racists. There is no magical reset button every 4-8 years for mistakes of the magnitude we just made as a society.
Buckle up.
Did he pardon anyone who participated in Jan 6?
He ran on doing so.
He will.
He doesn’t have to worry about pissing people off now. It’s his 2nd term.
“Party of law and order”.
Not yet but he will. They will form his loyal brown shirts which he will turn into the SS.
Also those court cases had not finished by the time Biden took office so he couldn’t have if he wanted to anyway.
Pardon them for what? Unless their possessing firearms wasn’t in line with the law, or that “physical altercation” mentioned that questioning apparently went nowhere reemerges as a thing then I don’t know what they’d need pardoned for based on the article.
The marching with Nazi shit and spewing whatever hateful bullshit is protected speech, because speech protections in the US are extremely broad.
And that’s before getting into whether or not the hypothetical crime is federal (which he could hypothetically pardon) or state (which he can’t).
Yeah, I was in a rush when writing that, and should have been more thorough in explaining what I meant.
I meant that’s their mentality: these idiots will become increasingly emboldened as Trump takes over, and make the assumption that they can do anything they want because Trump & the Republicans have taken over the Justice system and will allow them to do whatever they want to the “evil libs.” There will be no hate crimes prosecuted (unless against white and/or prominent right-wingers) - at least not on a federal level, but these idiots often don’t really understand that difference (and TBF there effectively may not BE a difference in red states).
Unless they violated a federal crime and are convicted of it, Trump can’t do shit.
I think it’s incorrect to link all the January 6th protestors with actual Neo-Nazis and that sort of hyperbole was part of the reason Democrats were out of touch with how regular people felt. Neo-Nazis are partly increasing because of the memification of racism, giving racism a more viral quality, combined with how fast society is changing and people incorrectly making sense of it through racism.
No one mentioned Jan 6 until you did.
Tbh why are these neo-nazis soo cringe tho.
You mean it doesn’t make them look badass to be carrying intentionally edgelord versions of a swastika flag while wearing matching skull balaclavas in front of the shake shack?
No
Can of Surströmming, pull tab, throw.
Nooooooooo, not the Surströmming attack. Against the geneva convention
Lol, you made my day brighter with your remark
Throw paint on them. Follow them to their car. Take a picture of their license plate. Its easier to follow them after you dump a pail of paint on them
And then? These are the good old boys, probably christians too. That’s what they voted for.
DOX them
they are probably armed
Police said the individuals were “armed with firearms.”
Yup.
What’s your point?
have you done this sort of thing before?
I did antifa work in Palestine. Israeli facists dont wear masks, generally. Tactics vary.
They will shoot you.
No they won’t. It’s posturing. Be careful around them, but if they shoot you for throwing paint then there’s going to be a big crackdown on them. They don’t want that. The guns are part of the show (and potentially to defend against other armed attacks).
man you have not been following events
They’ll get cracked down on, maybe, but you’ll still be fucking shot
but if they shoot you for throwing paint then there’s going to be a big crackdown on them
They’re armed because they’re looking to provoke a situation where they can commit murder and call it self defense.
It’s called the Shittenhouse Defense
In a normal legal system that would be provocation of self-defense state, which would cause the act of defending to be limited to actual defense but would require extensive acts of mitigating the threat in non-violent ways.
Yes, but these are nazis, so it’s not like the sympathetic legal system is going to do anything. Also, these are nazis, so they’re not very bright.
That is not true of everyone walking around carrying, but it is definitely true of these fuckwits.
They’re marching in the hopes that someone will attack them in a fashion they cannot reasonably flee from? Or does Ohio have stand your ground and we could knock the part about fleeing off?
Ohio doesn’t require fleeing. All they have to say is that they thought someone was in danger to use lethal force. They could still be charged and it’d be up to ba jury. I don’t think they’d do very well with a jury though. But somebody is still dead.
They’re marching in the hopes that someone will attack them in a fashion they cannot reasonably flee from?
They are marching in the hopes that someone will do anything even slightly untoward that they can interpret as a threat and open fire. They’re confident that they will get a piece of shit judge like Rittenhouse got.
Or does Ohio have stand your ground and we could knock the part about fleeing off?
Do you suppose that they are legal scholars?
I’m not saying they will shoot you, just simply pointing out what the point is that op asked about.
Sure, because there was no warning of this crap display of cowardice (masks), & everyone just happens to carry cans of paint around to do such a thing. 🙄
These things are going to keep happening. Go buy paint now and pour it into some wide mouth plastic bottles. If you want to stop facsim, you have to plan to do antifa work, just like any work
If I didn’t have a family depending upon me, maybe. Escalation such as you describe carries a much higher risk of retaliation, and really is what they are doing this kind of thing for so they can spin it to fit their “victim” complex. While I don’t have a problem giving my life for a worthwhile cause, I DO have a problem doing so in what will only in effect be a symbolic effort that is extremely unlikely to accomplish anything significant. I’d rather find more effective (and probably subtle) ways to undermine them.
Said the Germans in 1930s
Always fighting fire with fire tends to leave nothing but destruction in its wake. Do you really think the only valid way to resist is head-on? I guarantee the Nazis would have won if that were the primary tactic used to fight them.
The reason the Nazis lost is literally with violence
Why the fuck is the photo censored?
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