• SarcasticMan@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    Outrageous! How the fuck are we supposed to murder, rob, subjugate, steal, and run our modern-day slave empires if the ICC can just go and arrest people all willy-nilly and shit?

    • SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works
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      14 hours ago

      Nope, they lost because they blindly support the billionaires over everyday people. Israel is a tiny symptom of the real problem, which is the concentration of wealth.

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        10 hours ago

        They bailed out the teamsters pension fund and had to fight Republicans tooth and nail to do it — didnt even result in am endorsement and majority of teamsters still voted GOP.

        CHIP act made Arizona flush with manufacturing and construction jobs, still voted GOP.

        The reason Democrats lose is because they have to campaign against a made-up Republican that is normal and reasonable and Republicans get to campaign against the Oberlin faculty lounge instead of Democrats

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          10 hours ago

          Yet they never tackled the monopolies in the healthcare, food and housing industries responsible for the cost of living crisis, which cost them the election.

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            9 hours ago

            Earlier they lost because they didn’t support workers, now they lost because they didn’t break up every food, healthcare, and housing company.

            I imagine if they did break those companies up and still lost you’d find another aspect of the party that isn’t to to your liking and pin the blame on that going on and on and on.

            If improving people’s material conditions worked, the Democrats would win every teamster or every person who relies on the ACA for their healthcare would vote Democrat and they don’t.

            The reality is that democrats lose because a huge chunk of voters spend 2 hours a day listening to the voice of a guy who sounds like their dad, telling them that Democrats only care about the gays or the blacks or the browns, and even if you think the republicans are weird religious freaks - at least their cruelty is good for the economy. They hear this idea repeated to them over and over and over and over again and when that happens the human mind starts to assume it’s the truth.

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              No argument that the Democrats focused on unimportant rhetoric. And the lies were damaging, because they were positioned as defending the status quo.

              The best way to support workers is to prevent their exploitation

              Have a listen to AOCs interviews of her supporters who voted Trump, as well as the swing voters who stayed away. It goes a long way to explain why 20million dem voters stayed away.

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    16 hours ago

    He’s at the end of his career, doesn’t need the money to fight the zionists propaganda, so that means he actually believes this.

    OR like I suspected before, Israel houses A LOT of secret US intelligence and defense capabilities

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      8 hours ago

      Yes this. The US isn’t shy to back genocides done to secure control of territories held by US friendly regimes. It’s kinda their thing really

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      11 hours ago

      In Israel it’s legal for companies to sell computer exploits to nation states and other actors like corporations. A lot of ex military from the u.s. work for these companies in Israel.

  • Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world
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    14 hours ago

    I’m surprised it didn’t happen years ago. I’m also outraged that no u.s president has been tried

    • beebarfbadger@lemmy.world
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      11 hours ago

      Where does a 600 pound gorilla sit?

      US foreign policy:

      Wherever the fuck he wants. Whatcha gonna do about it?

  • b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    18 hours ago

    He welcomes Trump with open arms, and acts like a lame duck. But can still get fired up to defend war criminals and try to stop Bernie’s move to block arms shipments. I don’t even know what to say.

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      8 hours ago

      Trump will help Bibi finish off the Palestinians entirely without Biden’s modest pretense of pretending to give a shit about a two-state solution

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      17 hours ago

      You say what was obvious from the start. Democrats were never going to stop the genocide in Gaza.

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      The man is getting senile, he works on knee jerk reactions as if it’s the 70’s.

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    19 hours ago

    “Were there not an Israel, the United States would have to invent an Israel to protect her interests in the region.”

    Joe Biden

    Israel is good for 2 things, as far as 60% of Congress is concerned: destabilizing Muslim countries to prevent a strong coalition from forming, and donating money to US politicians. What’s a little genocide in the face of that?

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      8 hours ago

      Israel is an Islamic hate sponge that allows US huge force projection within the ME.

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      17 hours ago

      That’s far too generous. At the very most, 10% of congress is on the right side of history when it comes to America’s favorite fascist apartheid regime.

      The public in general is closer to 65-35 the opposite direction.

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        17 hours ago

        That may be true, but only 60% of congress is receiving Israeli bribes. Hence the number I chose.

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          Again, overly generous. Almost all of them are either receiving bribes from them or running against someone who is in both primary and general elections. 60% is hella optimistic.

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            16 hours ago

            60% is hella optimistic.

            It’s hyperbolic, actually. According to opensecrets.org, the actual number is only 52.5%. Of course, I’m sure that there’s some back-room deals that aren’t recorded publicly, and so the number is higher than that. 60% seems like a good, round, umbrella-like figure.

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    huh, we wasn’t cynically posturing for election purposes, he really wants to die on this hill :/

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      7 hours ago

      Seems or entire government does. How much shady shit does isreal do for our country? Our official imports and exports don’t really look that dramatic.

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      Biden is a devout catholic, meaning he believes Isreal must be the home for all jews for the rapture to happen. Not enough people are talking about this. Even the most “normal” religious people are nut jobs that shouldn’t be in power.

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        I thought that was some evangelical sect crap. Roman catholics don’t believe in rapture “the rapture”.

        • whotookkarl@lemmy.world
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          Christianity at its foundation is an apocalyptic religion, more so in Mark than the later gospels but it’s there in all 4 of them and comes back in full force in revelations which are all part of the Catholic canonical Bible. The specific details of what the end times will look like beyond what it says in the Bible differs greatly between different sects of Christianity, but they all predict some sort of divine apocalypse.

          The mythical narrative is humanity doomed itself (Adam and Eve committing original sin dooming their progeny), Jesus came and erased that doom (by sacrificing himself to himself), and said he’ll be back (within the apostles lifetime) to bring the end times and utopia for Christians.

          Edit: Catholic doctrine regarding the apocalypse: https://www.catholic.com/encyclopedia/apocalypse

          And some of the predictions attributed to Jesus in Matthew as signs of the end is nigh: https://www.catholic365.com/article/40494/decoding-the-signs-the-catholic-perspective-on-end-times.html

      • Kyrgizion@lemmy.world
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        19 hours ago

        He’ll not be remembered kindly by history for this. Even if he was objectively decent president.

        • nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          10 hours ago

          He will be remembered like silent Cal, except instead of doing to little to combat the oncoming great depression, it will be doing to little to prevent fascism.

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          Sad but true. I really don’t understand why he is so adamant in his support for Netanyahu.

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            Because he’s a true believer who’s drunk the Zionism kool-aid.

            Plus it probably helps that he’s received more money from AIPAC throughout his political career than his current net worth.

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            Because it’s self serving.

            If Bibi is a war criminal for leveraging an admittedly horrible terrorist attack to commit horrendous atrocities, so is Joe Biden.

            What the US did in the 2 decades post 9/11 is no better or worse than what Israel is doing now. Accountability for one means accountability for the other, and Biden doesn’t want to be held accountable.

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              What the US did in Iraq and Afghanistan was wrong, no doubt. There’s a lot of reasons for that, ranging from who was actually responsible for 9/11 to all the actual violence between the civilians and soldiers. But systematic extermination is NOT one of those reasons. What Israel is doing in Gaza is 1000x worse. Equating it to how the US conducted its affairs minimizes what’s actually happening, muddying the water and keeping people from feeling like they should actually be doing anything about it.

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    Doesn’t really matter what he thinks, since the US ain’t part of the ICC. What’s pathetic is countries being part of the ICC, condemning the arrest warrants.