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    I didn’t think it was humanly possible to see such a concerted effort to destroy an economy in my life. Even Hitler didn’t try to do this with Germany.

    Once upon a time I couldn’t get myself to watch old 80s and 90s cartoons anymore because I felt too old and cynical for them… but now I realize that the villains on those shows have nothing on Trump and his dipshit cronies. Only they are somehow more fleshed out despite being literal cartoon villains.

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    Looks like Sleepy Don has done it again. What happened to better economy on Day 1? Is he going to say the days so far don’t count? Let’s hear some more excuses about how Biden made the job so hard you can’t improve things by 1%. You only need to make excuses for a little less than 4 years now.

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        They meant Don Jr.

        Donald will be in the hyperbaric chamber attaining immortality, returning in 2032 as the Undertrump.

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          Thankfully, Elon has shown that whatever Trump mystique there is won’t magically transfer to someone else just because they’re associated with him.

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      Only if you need the funds short term, if you are a ways off from needing the funds then hold what you’ve got and start building a cash reserve to buy more shares when it’s low.

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        Time in market beats timing the market. You’re never going to now when stocks are “low”. You’re just as likely to wait JUST a little too long and then end up buying when it’s higher than it is now.

        If you have AVAILABLE cash now, that isn’t needed for an emergency fund, put it in the market now.

        If you want to hedge your bets a bit, then just invest a smaller amount every week to distribute the buying power in case the market keeps dropping.

        Trump could just announce that tariffs are dumb and he’s never doing another one tonight, and the market jumps in off hours trading. Or the market could bounce up for a couple days then crash. Or the market could stay down for the next 4 years.

        It’s impossible to predict when the “buy back in” period should start, so just don’t even try.

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          That being said, you also don’t know where the bottom will be, so slowly buying into a falling market should let you get a good amount of buys in close to the bottom.

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          You’re just as likely to wait JUST a little too long and then end up buying when it’s higher than it is now.

          I think you’re overestimating the performance of the stock market for the next 1-4 years.

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              Well, we can be rather certain it’s not going up over the next month, wouldn’t you agree? Not unless somehow we can re-wind international politics.

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          That is one way, and it is smart. For me I have a small amount of companies that I own and want to increase my stakes in those. The problem is they are all up at the moment. I’m waiting for a drop then I’ll start buying in.

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        That’s what most people don’t get about investing-- there is money to be made in both market directions. The rich understand that.

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          Yep, when I started investing about 20 years ago I read as much as I could, one thing that always stuck with me was a Warren Buffet quote “be fearful when others are greedy and to be greedy only when others are fearful”.

          That’s generally how I approach investing in stock and Bitcoin. There are exceptions of course, but that’s the general plan. This stock or whatever isn’t failing, it’s on sale.

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            Wellllll, we’re heading into completely uncharted territory here. No Warren Buffet wisdom has any relevance, because no one has dismantled the US government like this before. And we’re only a month in. Extrapolate one month of damage over a 4-year term… we’ve experienced 2% of a Trump/Musk term.

            Yeah I would absolutely recommend selling everything now, it’s going to go much, MUCH lower. If you really want to play that game, wait until it’s all hit rock fucking bottom to buy again.

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              To each their own, I’ll stick with my method and you can do yours. We’ll just have to wait and see who’s got the right idea in this uncharted landscape.

              I wish you the best of luck, not sarcastically either.

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              Every dip is “uncharted territory”

              The COVID quarantine was uncharted.
              The 2008 financial crisis was uncharted.
              The 1999 tech bubble was uncharted.

              To the market, today’s just another Tuesday.

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                So there’s a failsafe for these kinds of crises called “government”.

                What’s currently uncharted is that we are dismantling the failsafe.

                If you think any of those are in any way comparable to what’s happening now, you aren’t paying enough attention.

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    I’m sure this would have been just as bad under Kamala.

    /s (cannot believe I have to add this, but…)

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      Yeah, no. Even if Kamala just continued whatever Biden was doing it would have been better than this.

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        Haha, of course I’m not serious, but a whole lot of bothsidering centrists and an unfortunate amount of leftists keep saying all this is the Democrats fault because they didn’t offer them a pretty, pretty pony last fall.

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    Risk? Its his goal. Crash the market for his ultra wealthy amigos to buy up everything

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      Another problem is that down to lower class the americans invest for their retirement.

      If he wipes out the people’s lifetime savings, they can’t afford to retire and got to work longer - even if the recession is driving inflation down.

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        You think that billionaires that are influenced by the likes of Curtis Yarvin care about people saving for retirement?

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      And…

      Destroy USD.

      Remove USD as global reserve currency.

      Bitcoin.

      Sell off land to billionaire buds.

      (Allow) Nuke a few cities?. Big midterm surprise?. /q’s Great solar flash of 2025 - this is the only one I’m not certain of what/how/when.

      Voilà.

      Lol. You downvote. Everything he does is a known. You just have to listen. Here’s my comment from almost 4 months ago about tarrifs https://lemmy.ca/post/33768636/13042232

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    What could possibly go wrong when you give the most important job in the world to the most unqualified person ever?

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      We need to dispense with this notion that Trump is “unqualified.” He is very qualified for the job that he actually set out to do, and has been accomplishing it expertly.

      It’s just a different job than the one you think it’s supposed to be.

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        Trump is overqualified to take us right into bankruptcy. He’s been here so many times! Don’t worry! Just ask for money from stupid people that have money!

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          Unironically, yes. You wanna know why Trump’s businesses kept going bankrupt? Because they were never meant to be sustainable in the first place. They were scams – probably fronts for Russian money laundering – and designed to have all the money extracted and then implode on purpose before law enforcement could start looking too closely.

          And now he’s doing the same thing with the entire goddamn country.

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        I don’t believe that for one second. They’ve got a Project 2025 playbook written by some smarter people that makes them almost look competent. But they aren’t even doing that great of a job of it. The whole lot appear to be as dumb as a box of rocks from my PoV.

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          Consider the possibility that Trump’s real goal is to destabilize the US, destroy its democracy and civil liberties, and turn it into a Russian-style oligarchy and vassal state of Russia.

          Given that assumption, what mistake has he made that detracts from that goal?

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            It’s a bad assumption. I could just say the same thing with the hypothesis about him being dumb.

            It also ignores the fact that he’s not alone. He’s got pretty much the whole government doing the thing. But I’m sure you’ll say they’re all looking to do the same thing.

            I think his only goal is his own enrichment and power. I doubt he even cares about his legacy.

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              Nonresponsive.

              What mistake has he made that detracts from that goal?

              I don’t think you can name one. Prove me wrong.

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      I bet we could find someone less qualified.

      It just would be difficult to find one outside of a hospital or care home.

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      I hope you are ready to open up and embrace big daddi T and all he has to offer. Cause he fuckin us all

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    Every day I wake up and I wonder if he’s a complete moron who’s in capable of doing his job… or is he making people worried about the recession and using these tariffs to manipulate the markets for his own benefit?

    The other possibility people have told me about is that he’s doing it to distract us from the real activity behind the scenes, which is to make the rich much richer in the poor, more desperate… 

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      No distractions, the second answer is not correct, he wants another glided age. The glided age is another term for the second industrial revolution that turned america into the superpower we know today, but It also was an awful era for your average american.They would work 12 hours or more for a whole week, some may have sunday off due to church but a lot did work that day with all your family working. The standard of living was so crap, many would become alcoholics due to the awful conditions, which would lead to prohibition movement. Your average american did not live long, many people would die due to work place accidents but due to no worker protection, nothing would change.

      The era was also known for the monopolies, starting with rockfeller standard oil, carnegie steel company and morgans banking with many others. All the major monopolies worked together to prevent competition by buying out, they would ask nicely to sell your company to them, if not they would play the waiting game by lowering the product your selling to be unprofitable and then buy you out. Regulations did not exist yet so, this was all legal and if it wasn’t, no one gave a shit as they were that powerful. The government was no help to them either, as most of them were bathing in the money of the 1%. The 1% lived in amazing conditions, and hoarded a ton of money, with some becoming important philanthropist.

      Here is an article of proof of what trump wants, https://apnews.com/article/trump-tariffs-gilded-age-mckinley-grover-cleveland-1592dab80ad7159266db51b5baa774b6.