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“It is not a mild infection, it is not a mild virus; it is a severe illness. And they kept on telling me they wish they’d known beforehand how bad measles was, so that they could have protected their family,” she said.
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It was the fuck aroundest of times It was the find outest of times
Zero sympathy. Absolute Zero.
Translation: " boy, are we STUPID"
not just stupid but dangerous to the immunocompromised who can’t get vaccinated.
I’m starting to think Cipolla was right
These are Cipolla’s five fundamental laws of stupidity:
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Always and inevitably, everyone underestimates the number of stupid individuals in circulation.
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The probability that a certain person (will) be stupid is independent of any other characteristic of that person.
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A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly incurring losses.
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Non-stupid people always underestimate the damaging power of stupid individuals. In particular, non-stupid people constantly forget that at all times and places, and under any circumstances, to deal and/or associate with stupid people always turns out to be a costly mistake.
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A stupid person is the most dangerous type of person.
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Well, if your education fails on such basic science topics like how effective vaccination is in saving lives, dumb antivaxxers can have a field day with their lies.
Bad curricula and home schooling are to blame. For a number of educational failures in the US.
NO SHIT ITS NOT A MILD INFECTION.
The entire world came together to eradicate a disease that we knew could not only debilitate but kill.
We spent years to formulate a preventative treatment that allows our bodies to survive infections, but some looneytunes sounding twat decides that vaccines are the devil and now that very same disease has open and unprotected vectors to be spread through.
Isn’t measles considered bad because it’s INSANELY contagious? Like covid made immunologisys freak out because the infection rate was over 2? Measles is like 12 or 18.
Lingers in the air for hours too… Good luck american morons and their neighbours…
I had measles as a kid, I wasn’t vaccinated, i remember it as if it were yesterday, it was so traumatic, i genuinely thought I was going to die, I genuinely felt my mortality, at like 7 or 8yo. the pain was more than I could cope with. My mother was (and still is) an antivaxer. As deranged (and narc) as they come. I got my kids vaccinated. It’s ripping my heart out, knowing what these kids are, entirely unnecessarily, being put through.
I don’t want to pull on any strings that are too painful or nothing but … did you tell your mom that you vaccinated your kids? if you did, how did she handle it?
She’s only become very vocal about her beliefs since the covid vaccine propaganda has been going around. I always thought she didn’t vaccinate us because she just didn’t care. It was rare for her to care about any of our (me and my siblings) physical ailments, or illnesses. And we don’t really speak, even when we do talk, there’s never any conversations where we talk about things, so I wouldn’t have ever spoken to her about getting my babies vaccinated. She’s a full blown narcissist, so conversations with my mother look like, her running some spiel about how amazing she is, how much better she is at literally everything, how much of a burden and annoyance everyone in her life is, because they are lazy or some such and make so much work for her, (even though she never lifts a finger to do anything, it’s all done by these people for her). And I’m the black sheep, she’s hated me the most for as long as I can remember, she diminishes and ridicules everything I say, or outright ignores me, randomly pretends I don’t exist and she can’t hear anything i say. All that to try to explain, we’ve never really talked, like ever.
Partially she hated me the most because from teen years on i always called her out on her shit. Sometimes just by asking simple questions, sometimes by outright stating the ways , what she was saying didn’t make sense. Lately I’ve been calling her out on the covid bullshit, but she makes such idiotic statements, I’m starting to feel like what’s the point. She doesn’t listen to or consider what I’m saying. I’m feeling like it’s a waste of my energy. None of us believe her bullshit. The last time she started on her vaccine rants, it was that “covid vaccine caused all those deaths” spiel. I explained to her, painstakingly, that more people will die without the vaccine. She said that doesn’t matter, any deaths are too many. There’s nothing rational going on up there.
I feel like She just likes to rage about something, it doesn’t matter what, but it has to be something right wing type. To distract from the massive ego vs reality imbalance, rife inside narcissistic types. Their beliefs don’t match reality, about themselves, so they’re constantly having to either try and create that fantasy reality by tearing others down, in an attempt to assert the hierarchy, therefore being able to see themselves as better than those they tear shreds off, in some twisted logic, or distracting themselves with some injustice (usually a bourgeois injustice, as they see themselves as the top 1%. Regardless if that matches reality).
I had a friend who was an antivaxer, too. She wasn’t a crazy narcissist, like my mother. She just fell for the propaganda. She was respectful about it, we just didn’t talk about it at all. But if we did accidentally come upon the subject in conversation, she still wouldn’t say anything. She didn’t ever try to convince me, none of that. We drifted apart, busy lives.
If anyone in a large room or house has measles, everyone will get it.
1 in 100 will get the virus in their brains leading to permanent brain damage or blindness.
A closed room with a internal vents system like a mall or a school can have measles issues for weeks after a few case. It was ione of the worst virus of the past for a reason.
makes me glad my wife’s classroom has external vents
Even europeans, asians, will have to be more careful the next tens of years, thanks to some deranged conspiratists in power.
At some point, rest-of-the world will mandate a vaccine proof from US travelers, because you know: that backward country with people carrying disease…
You see, the reason you didn’t know was because we had eradicated it before you morons decided you were smarter than the entire science and medical community because you watched some youtube videos
Algorithmic engagement prioritized this shit over established medical science. Big Tech undermined all the pillars of society. What a fucking mess.
Capitalism. Capitalism caused this. Big Tech is just a vessel that is used by capitalists to further their agenda.
Big Tech is a force multiplier. It amplifies the scale and scope of the damage. To make an analogy, it’s like replacing muskets with machine guns. Capitalism was headed this direction long before tech came along, but with tools like these in their pocket, the scale of the disinformation went from “a serious problem” to “an existential crisis”, and the tools we have to resist it are simply incapable of holding the line against the firehose of BS.
That’s what I was trying to say, but I like your explanation better than mine. 😅
incapable of holding the line against the fire hose of BS
Also known as Brandolini’s law
The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than that needed to produce it.[1][2]
At the end of the day those people chose to believe some random blog over medical journals, university publications, and the advice of doctors. There is no other word for that than stupidity, algorithms or no.
Blaming stupidity itself fails to address those who seek to exploit it.
No matter the cause or effect, stupidity is the root of the problem. You can’t exploit a weakness that doesn’t exist.
Unfortunately, I was reading somewhere recently (I think it might have been a t-shirt?) that, “you can’t fix stupid.”
You can. I fixed myself to some extend
extend
Are you sure?
Human nature is the root problem. It encompasses stupidity, greed, and violence, and many other traits - all of which are available to every human.
i love it when people say “i’m too smart for propaganda to work on me” because all i have to do is find out their rough location to find what propaganda they’ve been falling for.
It’s a good thing that’s not what I said then isn’t it
I once had a neighbor tell me they “didn’t agree with liberal views on vaccines.”
You know, like germs give a flying fuck about your political views.
The irony? This person is a nurse.
I worked in nursing for a while
I worked with a few excellent people, many average people, and a horrifyingly large number of absolute fucking halfwits
I worked in a nursing home during Covid, including when the vaccine came out and it became mandatory for employees. Despite going through school to become nurses or aides, as well as witnessing all the horrors of Covid with their own eyes, some people chose to quit instead of get the vaccine.
I had no words, and I still have no words.
I have several words
Such as “fucking morons” and “useless wastes of oxygen”
That’s my experience with the medical field as well. It breaks my heart, I used to trust doctors, but after some interesting experiences I am now convinced it’s all a minstrel show held together with bailing wire.
I think it helps that I’m lucky enough to live in a civilised country, rather than 'Murica
Nurses are either brilliant, wonderful, helpful people, joe-schmoe’s looking to make a buck, or radical traditionalist women who think that it’s ok to be a nurse because it’s women’s work.
If it were a different country, I’d be ratting her ass out to the medical board.
we had eradicated it
Clearly we hadn’t.
We horded the vaccine domestically, patented efficient methods for manufacturer and distribution, and curtailed it’s use in states we considered too poor or too evil.
Some of the highest rates of measles today can be found in Yemen, a country we’ve been bombing since the early '10s.
We didn’t exterminate the disease. We incubated it. And now we’re reaping what we’ve sown.
we also curtail other vaccines too, like HPV limited to women MOSTLY unless some how you can convince your doc/insurance to approve it, Meningicoccal menigitis vaccine, we know majority isnt “susceptible” enough to be eligble but still.
There’s also the shingles vaccine, which (at least, in the US) is typically reserved for those 50+. I could understand if they limited the vaccine for those young enough to have been immunized against chicken pox. However, that vaccine wasn’t released here until 1995, well after many of us (particularly Millennials and younger Gen X) already caught the disease. This leaves those of us under 50 in a vulnerable gap, where we’re susceptible to shingles, but not allowed to be vaccinated against it. Of course it’s especially dangerous for older folks, but that doesn’t mean shingles won’t kick the ass of an otherwise healthy 35 year old.
I personally fall into this gap, and I’m pretty pissed about it. I know people younger than me who’ve already experienced shingles, and it’s frankly terrifying.
It was taught in our schools, along with the black plague and others.
At what point should other countries ban travel from the US?
November 6th, 2024
I would even say 2004
Since 2021 (when Covid19 vaccines were rolled out in the “Western” world and normal life gradually returned). Maybe already earlier, but travel was restricted anyhow.
Good reasons have only been mounting since then.
Add travel advisory warnings for people going there.
I mean, you can, but the cases in the US were imported from elsewhere: the ones in the Northeast are generally from heavily Orthodox Jews traveling to or from Israel; the cases in the southwest started among the Mennonite community and was imported from Mennonites in Mexico. Unfortunately, vaccine resistance is pretty high among both groups.
The better way to handle it would be to require that travelers to your country have been vaccinated, and that refugees and asylum seekers are kept in quarantine and given vaccinations before they’re paroled to the general public. There’ll still be people who slip through the cracks - immigrants who manage to avoid processing, people traveling on small boats or small planes, etc - but it would be a start. Unfortunately, I don’t know how well that plays with all the various “free travel” rules.
Antivax parents are the worst kind of stupid - well intentioned stupid. And children are paying the price. Some of those parents even refuse to change their stance because the cognitive dissonance of admitting they were wrong about their beliefs is worse to them than the knowledge that they tortured and possibly killed their and others’ children. These people need to be committed.
Edit, typo
Happened with a lot of that group during the pandemic. Loved one would die, but they’d still bitch about the vaccine.
Also, just a heads up if you care. You wrote “partying” when you meant “paying”. I’m pretty sure.
but they’d still bitch about the vaccine.
My favorite were the ones that refused the vaccine, mocked others for getting “the jab”, posted daily on social media how the government was evil for mandating vaccinations (which it wasn’t). And then, after they contracted covid and at the 11th hour dying from the infection, they beg for the vaccination (which would be like throwing a cup of water on a wild fire) and cry about the unfairness as they wither away and die.
Fuck anti-vaxxers
Idk, fuck anti-vaxxers and all, but watching anyone wither and die as they beg… is pretty fucked up for anyone to see. I do ICU nursing, and the pandemic left me with some ptsd; 10/10 wouldn’t recommend
Please don’t get me wrong. I am not suggesting schadenfreude. I just can’t get over the hypocritical nature of their attitude.
I am. Schadenfreude is a word for a reason, after all.
I find compassion for my patients, even as I hope they die and all their idiocy dies with them… swiftly. I’m tired of living in a world that is actively being made worse by their ilk.
Thanks, and yeah I remember. One older guy was dying in the hospital because his lungs were practically melting and he was asked if he regretted not getting the vaccine. He replied that not only did he not regret it, but that he’d do the same thing again given the chance. He literally died rather than change his mind. It’s the definition of insanity.
It’s a cult and it is so freaking weird.
All cults are evil. And remember, most mainstream religions are colts too. Christianity started as a Jesus cult, don’t forget.
Life is tough.
If you follow me, ill tell you why those other people are worse than you.
Then we can take their stuff together.
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It was called the Southern Strategy, then they repeated the pattern ad nauseam.
Ego is a hell of a drug
Weaponized stupidity.
I thought chiropractors and ivermectin were a miracle cure. Whattup with that, MAGAs? You lot shouldn’t be sick, yeah?
They’re clearly invulnerable / invincible. They’ll live forever, just like the pieces of shit in USA government.
My father almost died from polio as a kid. I care a lot about vaccines. I hope all these people die before they can do further harm to the rest of us. There will be no such luck.
Sharing from a friend :)
most people have received 2 doses of the MMR vaccine. if you haven’t received 2 doses, you could talk to a doctor. if you don’t know how many doses you have received: I would ask for a measles immune status test, and get vaccinated if you don’t have immunity. people who were born before 1970 are assumed to have natural immunity, but you may still need to be vaccinated, depending on your situation.
If only there was some way to protect yourself. /s
I fucking wonder why there was such a concerted effort to create a :: checks my notes:: fucking vaccine!!!
I had measles as a kid in the 80s, either before I was old enough for the vax or a breakthrough case, unclear which as idk the recommended schedules from the 80s. I was in the hospital for weeks. I take vaccination very seriously, get every single one I can, and was quite pleased to have gotten all my childhood vaccinations a second time as an adult, just to be absolutely sure (my records went missing and it was required for my job).
Zero sympathy.
For the parents. I feel bad for the kids.
Mormons believe that their children are pre-selected in the pre-earth life, so the children chose to come to that family in their theology.
Ugh. Making kids is raping life into them. There is no consent involved.
That’s what all Protestants believe.
I forgot about that part.
I have to agree here. Those bairns didn’t ask to run the risk of lifelong complications like blindness, deafness, brain damage, loss of motor control of a body part, lung damage, immune system damage and a whole slew of others I needn’t list to labour a point.
The parents should be no longer so, but condemning those kids to yet more abuse at the hands of the system strikes me as nothing short of sadistic.
