Vice presidential candidates JD Vance and Tim Walz are set to debate this Tuesday. Ahead of the Oct. 1 event, the broadcaster announced that moderators Norah O’Donnell and Margaret Brennan will not fact-check either candidate — Walz and Vance will be responsible for fact-checking one another. The news prompted political scientist Norman Ornstein to lament that though CBS was once “the gold standard for television news,” both “those days and their standards are long gone.”
Ornstein isn’t the only voice objecting to CBS’ announcement, with the condemnation of their choice widespread on social media after CNN previously declined to fact-check candidates during the debate between Joe Biden and Donald Trump earlier this year, followed by ABC opting to include brief fact-checks from moderators in the presidential debate between Trump and Kamala Harris.
According to CBS News’ editorial standards, the moderators are there to facilitate the conversation/debate between the candidates, as well as enforce the debate’s rules. However, they leave the responsibility to the candidates when it comes to fact-checking as part of the broadcast. CBS does plan to offer its own form of live fact-checking — but it will be online, rather than directly from the moderators, via its CBS News Confirmed Unit journalists in an online blog.
A vanishingly small number of US voters are even going to watch this. There is wildcard baseball and a bunch of other crap happening at the exact same time.
Mysticpickle drops bombshell on journalists. Entire industry collapses!
I refuse to upvote any post woth the word “slammed” in the title
That really ripped me.
So they’re just going to let Vance fearmonger the country into a race war.
Cool. Cool cool cool.
Vance will be fact checked way more.
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CBS does plan to offer its own form of live fact-checking — but it will be online, rather than directly from the moderators, via its CBS News Confirmed Unit journalists in an online blog.
So the attention of the viewer is divided or they don’t even know that there is an online live fact check.
Sounds more than fishy
I vote for big true/false gauge behind them both. The needle swings as the speaker speaks. Maybe a flashing red light for insane lies and green for absolute truth.
But they would need real fact checkers voting on the truthfulness in real time to make it work.
“Uh, well, I, uh … the question is-is vague. You don’t say what kind of couch, whether anyone is watching or, uh… At any rate, I certainly wouldn’t fuck the couch!”
The best thing about this joke is how protesting will make him sound so much more guilty of it.
This is actually a great compromise if they don’t wanna fact check em on air. Have the meter and the link on screen if anyone wants to go online to read the fact check.
I’d prefer it actually visible to the candidates.
They need to know that we know.
At this point, refusing to fact-check a debate is just a tacit admission that you want to help the GOP. After all, JD Vance is on record saying he has no problem lying and making up things if he thinks it’s politically advantageous. Tim Walz shouldn’t have to cut into his time correcting the lies of an established liar. Why have journalists involved at all? Seems like it’d be cheaper to hire some bozo off the street to read the questions and only enforce time limits on the Democrat. You don’t need Norah O’Donnell and Margaret Brennan to accomplish that.
I feel like Walz will be able to call Vance on whatever bullshit he’s peddling… but not having a neutral fact checker is a terrible idea.
Vance can spew out so much BS that Walz won’t be able to make any points of his own.
That is Trump’s tactic, which worked wonders when debating against Biden. I was glad when Harris shut that shit down by basically saying “I told you he was going to spout a bunch of bullshit, anyway my point is…”
And also Walz doesn’t need to be wasting all of his allotted time fact checking an admitted liar. Not a ton of actual “News” in this article, but several of the referenced comments were funny/made good points like that.
Time concerns aside, this will just make GOP say “they have their own idea of truth”. Which is correct but the causality is vice versa.
He says she says. What a way to run a debate. Terrible idea!
This is a requirement of modern right-populist politics. They won’t play defense, so they just say crap and you’re always chasing the latest nonsense and never get to make a point.
Of course the counter to this is for Walz to make this a non-stop couch-fucking roast from minute one. I’m talking opening statement is about upholstery, fabric texture, visualize choices for lubricant and material combos. Just go all in on the furniture abuse right away.
<Walks walks onto stage and goes to shake Vance’s hand> “Hey, how was the tour of Ashely Furniture? Sorry I couldn’t join you… Did you find any attractive couches?”
“‘Test’ any out?”
S L A M M E D
To slams, you say?
Hook each VP candidate nuts to a car battery and every time they lie hit them with the full voltage.
Simple as.
12 volts is nothing. You can bridge a car battery with your fingers and nothing happens.
I’ve seen this Reddit post before.
too low voltage, recommend 10 batteries in series
That would increase voltage?
That’s how batteries in series work.
Learned something new
Slamalamadingdong!
Come on and slam! And welcome to the jam!
Truth is just an opinion. Whatever was said most eloquently and with more confidence was probably truer. There needn’t be any fact checking other than two people each saying a thing, the one who’s right will simply sound right to anyone, regardless of any pre-existing bias. /S
good.
You misspelled “bad”.
