What do you guys think about this glasses to use daily to escape Facial Recognition? Worth the price? Does it really work?

https://reflectacles.com

    • @PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world
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      219 months ago

      It doesn’t need to be as dramatic as this. The goal is simply to obscure key parts of the face that are commonly used for individualization. Between the eyebrows, the bridge of the nose, jawline, eye tilt, etc are all common key data points that facial recognition systems use to differentiate between similar faces. You can also try to avoid facial detection from pinging you in the first place, by obscuring the expected oval head shape. Style your hair asymmetrically, have bangs that droop over one eye, break up the expected round shape, use a color that mismatches your skintone, etc…

      Your face paint is definitely an extreme example of the latter. But the important part is that some may actually still be able to detect a face (even if it can’t positively identify them) because they didn’t do anything to obscure the head shape or obscure at least one of their eyes.

    • KrisND
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      159 months ago

      And that’s how I got kicked out of the local trader joes…

  • LinkOpensChest.wav
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    299 months ago

    I doubt they work, and they’re definitely not worth the price imo

    I can get a pair of prescription sunglasses for less than that

    • Chemical WonkaOP
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      49 months ago

      Idk if regular sunglasses will prevent your face from being captured by facial recognition systems.

        • Chemical WonkaOP
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          9 months ago

          They are made from a material that reflects visible and/or infrared light and its lenses block the system that is used to measure the distance between your eyeballs avoiding to create a unique profile from your face. Many facial recognition cameras (not all) relies on infrared to search for patterns in human face and this glasses reflects IR. These glasses are one of the few tools that we can at least use to try protect our privacy against facial recognition.

          • @HughJanus@lemmy.ml
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            49 months ago

            They’re IR reflectors. Presumably only work on cameras with built in IR lighting, and only at night.

            A more effective thing to do will be to add IR LEDs to a hat or something over/around your face.

          • @Tyfud@lemmy.one
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            29 months ago

            Facial recognition does not need to use infrared in any way to work. Source: have trained many models

      • @DrRatso@lemmy.world
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        29 months ago

        They most certainly do not, my FaceID worked flawlessly with all of my glasses, invluding sunglasses even when I did not set it up with glasses

  • handygaber
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    249 months ago

    This seems more like an art project than a functional product. Highly doubt it’ll work

  • @chairman@feddit.nl
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    229 months ago

    I suppose putting on a very unique pair of glasses would for sure avoid facial recognition. Why would there be a need to recognize your face if u make yourself so obviously different vs others. Haha.

    A dumbass camera would be sufficient. No need for complicated facial recognition camera.

  • Zoift [he/him]
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    9 months ago

    I read somewhere that during covid there was a big shift in recognition techniques to overall facial morphology & gait recognition.

    I’ll try & find an article. Mask up & keep a coin in your shoe.

    • @HughJanus@lemmy.ml
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      29 months ago

      If you keep a coin in your shoe everywhere you go then you will have the same gait regardless, everywhere you go.

        • @HughJanus@lemmy.ml
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          39 months ago

          The purpose is not to avoid profiling while doing “sneaky shit”. I don’t do “sneaky shit”. The point is to avoid being profiled.

              • Zoift [he/him]
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                19 months ago

                Probably stock up on shoes with different sole & treadhight. Flipflops one day, combat boots the next. Or identical shoes with different amounts of wear on the bottom, vary your leg height & you’ll adjust your posture to compensate. Might be able to get away with just carrying really heavy shit in only one of your pockets. Anything sensitive enough to track small signifiers in stride length & foot pronation would hopefully be easy to juke by that same sensitivity.

      • @exponential_wizard@lemm.ee
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        39 months ago

        You take the image recognization machine, and you run the output of your own algorithm through it, training your algorithm to value patterns that confuse the first machine.

        I wouldn’t trust this to work against updated machine learning algorithms.

      • @emeralddawn45
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        29 months ago

        Tl;dr It stops the ai from being able to recognize you as a person so it can’t tell that your face is a face.

  • SokathHisEyesOpen
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    129 months ago

    Worth the price is subjective. Are you a wanted criminal, or planning a heist? Then probably yes. Otherwise, probably no.

      • SokathHisEyesOpen
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        149 months ago

        I would definitely want something more than these glasses in that case, but that’s another possible use for them for sure.

    • newIdentity
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      9 months ago

      Maybe you just want to look sick at the next rave.

      Not their intended purpose, but that’s the only one that doesn’t sound stupid

      Edit: looking at their website, that might be their intended target audience.

  • ElRenosaurusReg [fae/faer, comrade/them]
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    109 months ago

    The only thing they block is the eyes, nothing is obscured otherwise, their own demos on their website show that.

    I personally won’t be wasting my money, if I want to obscure my face I’ll wear a face mask and color contacts like I already do.

  • @UrLogicFails@beehaw.org
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    99 months ago

    As far as I can tell, these supposedly protect you from facial recognition because they reflect IR. I’m not an expert in security cameras, but don’t they only use IR at night? While they could technically run 24/7, that would burn out the LEDs in half the time.

    These are also quite similar to the “anti-paparazi” reflective clothing. If you are interested in these as a statement piece, those might be of interest to you as well.

    These seem like the developer came up with the function of the sunglasses after coming up with the sunglasses (after being inspired by the anti-paparazi clothes).

    All in all, I don’t really see much value in these sunglasses; and I suppose I wouldn’t really be that concerned about facial recognition with proper masking safety, anyways.

    • Shurimal
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      89 months ago

      I’m not an expert in security cameras, but don’t they only use IR at night?

      Precisely. And good security cameras with Sony sensors only need IR when it’s pitch black. During dawn, dusk and summer nights at Nordic latitudes they don’t even switch to night mode, showing sharp full-color image almost 24/7—watching that footage you wouldn’t even realize that it’s taken in natural light with sun below the horizon.

      And facial recognition is a standard feature these days. It’s become so good that you can have two pictures of the same person, one taken at age 15 and the other at age 95, and it can still say with >95% confidence that it’s the same person. And that’s the prosumer-level stuff available to every Jack and Joe to install to their small business or suburban house. I don’t even want to think about what the alphabet soup orgs could have access to.

      I have some experience with Dahua cameras and NVR-s. Their technical capabilities are both amazing and scary at the same time.

  • SootySootySoot [any]
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    9 months ago

    Any sources to back up that a vague amount of infrared of the eye region is so meaningfully essential to face recognition systems? My sunglasses reflect most visible light, and they reflect some infrared light, and they cost $5. Even granting that very shaky claim, infrared blocking materials aren’t that expensive, this seems like a gimmick to make up for big prices.

    A mask and any sunglasses or hat will prevent facial recognition 1000x better I suspect.

    • @constantokra@lemmy.one
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      69 months ago

      Dunno what those cost, but a pair of IR blocking safety glasses are like 15 bucks or less, blend in a whole lot better, and won’t make you stand out like a shining beacon in video.