Trains.
Trains
Trains
Trains.
Trains
Trains
Trains.
Trains
Planes
And Automobiles!
NO.
Autonomous pods!
NO.
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Lots of things contribute to this. Vehicle weight (extra stress on the tires), wheel alignment (toe-in/out causes scrubbing which causes more wear), unmaintained suspensions (worn out shocks, struts and bushings causing the above), burnouts (obviously, but, even in winter being the guy doing a burnout on summer tires while trying to get up an icy hill or across the intersection still counts), tire compound, road design, and driving style. If we had more cargo trains doing logi instead of long haul trucks we could probably cut down on a lot of pollution both in exhaust particles and tire particles.
Yet another problem not solved by EVs
It’s actually made a little worse by EVs because of battery weight.
But the manufacturer and my government said they were eco-friendly, what do you means my 6000 pounds of steel and plastic isn’t good for the planet?
they will do anything but build proper transit infrastructure. can’t have transport market owned by the government, it would hurt profits of too many owners.
fuck you peasants!
Not with that attitude.
But electric cars will fix everything. Thats what electric car manufacturers said!
Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.
We are far from good: Cars ruined walkability. Most suburbs are under constant tyre roar within a kilometer from a freeway. Stroads are hideous and biking there is dangerous.
Tyre dust went onto fields, into crops, we ate the dust, gut illness became common. Heard of gluten free? People are sick.
This would be good: https://www.quora.com/What-new-types-of-public-transport-could-there-be/answer/Harri-K-Hiltunen
But we let the free market lock us into a technological dead-end. Ending the market religion in state affairs would be good. Some things need a 100-year plan. https://lemmy.world/comment/10858248
I’m not arguing whether cars are good or bad for society as a whole.
I’m just saying that if the choice is between internal combustion engines and electric motors, it’s a no brainer.
Slightly better isn’t good enough.
I take your point, but unfortunately we live in the real world and we have to be realistic.
The only thing I see amerikans taking ‘urgent action’ on is making sure a few select convicted criminals avoid doing any prison time.
Also, we’re due for a new high school shooting record. Maybe we can break it this next time.
That’s why this is so important. Now that we’re finally starting to move to electric vehicles and can see a future with no exhaust and much less brake dust, that tire pollution stands out even more.
Electric cars are not here to save the planet, they are here to save the car industry.
Trains and busses, actually.
Trains seemingly solve all problems that were created by a bunch of rich people
I’ll get the rope, you keep an eye out for the sheriff Handsome Dan.
Not surprised but happy that someone identified this source
Unfortunately this is known since two decades or so. I have learned about it in Uni 5 years ago.
I expect that car and tire manufacturers have been lobbying against this getting more attention extensively. There is no other solution except reducing car traffic.
Reduce car traffic, or…
Tyre dust vacuum car, just add HEPA filter:
Even more road noise. No improvement to car-dependence ruining walkability in cities and bikeability in suburbs.
This makes people that harass people with vehicle drive-bys and creepy vehicle stalking just that much more destructive and shite evil.
They might as well go exploit a child to poison a puppy dog like my neighbor the state patrol trooper did.
…wat?
what’s the percentage comparison to microplastics that are released by the floating plastic island in the middle of the Atlantic?
I can’t imagine much microplatics are getting chipped off of them. The tires have thousands of pounds of pressure being put on small surface areas when you round corners, where as a plastic bottleneck can dolphin into the water if hit by a large wave and not nearly as much friction placed on it.
How I imagine it
so plastic floating in a salty ocean, being hit with wave after wave of hundreds if not thousands of tons of pressure 24 hours a day 7 days a week for literal decades all while slamming into other plastic bottles will release less plastic than tires?
IDK. I think a wider study should be done.
50-75 trillion pieces of plastic exist in the ocean today and makes up 80% of all marine pollution.
plastic itself isn’t easily recycled either. tires on vehicles can be reliably recycled into other products like asphalt, roof shingles, new tires, etc.
I think if the concern is about microplastics, there are bigger pollutants at hand that need attention before car tires.
One question that’d be interesting to know the answer to is where it ends up at. I could imagine microplastics from the garbage island mostly staying around the island, whereas ones from tires will end up all over the environment.
What I’m getting is I’m going to need a lot more digital bottle nosed dolpin bottles to emulate this.
25% of all microplastics isn’t worthwhile to fix? Even if it was 10%, thats worthwhile. Would a 10% raise make an impact on your life? I know it would on mine. We can have people focusing on multiple problems and i think its wrong to dismiss people trying to fight tire plastics just because you think theres a bigger boogeyman, we can save the environment from multiple angles at a time. Even if we recyle 100% of the tires we make, that does nothing to stop the wear down plastics which is where most of these microplastics are coming from in roadway runoff
You say that the plastic island has been slamming for decades, while cars have been using tires for decades too. Some countries have started banning single use plastics so they’ve already started focusing on that problem as well.
Wow, now imagine what tractor tires are doing to the fields we grow our food in. Plus the exhaust and tires deposit heavy metals. I have been bitching about this for years. We need drone fleets in fields and to ban tires and exhaust in fields.
The tires aren’t breaking down like they do on asphalt. Not the same.
I come from farmers. They are still breaking down and still an issue. They also cause soil compaction. Anyone familiar with farming understands that tractors aren’t good for soil
That we know of.
try falling down on a tillaged field and then do the same on asphalt. you will know soon enough which is more abrasive lol
We have all the data in the world to verify this. Yes, that we know… which in this occasion, is pretty much confirmed until proven otherwise. Claims with no evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
Where have all the steel wheels gone?
They went around smaller steel wheels:
I wish it was pure iron dust wearing off that steel, but no. The flying drone idea seems good, but for harvesting?
Exhaust gas is poison.
The relatively high amount of metal contents emitted from diesel engines strongly suggests that the measurement on the control of metal contents in diesel fuel should be taken in the future.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1352231003006241
As, Hg and Se exhaust emissions were dominated by fuel combustion while Cd, Cr, Cu, Ni, Pb, and Zn exhaust emissions were dominated by lubricant oil combustion.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1352231012006942
https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-know-if-I-have-heavy-metals-in-my-organs/answer/Harri-K-Hiltunen
