• FearfulSalad@ttrpg.network
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      I find that system inconvenient, as it does not inform me of how I should eat any given item. Classification for the purpose of classification is insufficient. However, an alternative that allows me to prepare my ustensils based on the classification is useful, and therefore I propose…

      Soup, salad, and sandwich are the three states of food, and they can go through phase transitions. They are closely accompanied by spoon, fork, and knife, respectively.

      • A soup is any food that requires a spoon, and thus includes soups, drinks, cereal with milk, etc. Tipping a container is merely the use of the container as a large and unwieldy spoon, a straw is similarly a spoon when its topology is combined with suction.

      • A salad then is anything bite sized that can be forked, and one’s hands are little more than fleshy forks, the fingers prehensile tines. Popcorn, salads, cut up steak bites, a handful of cheerios, etc.

      • A sandwich is anything that requires it to be cut in order to be consumed, and one’s incisors are merely built-in knives. A sandwich is thus the vast majority of the cube rule’s content, and only because the cube rule focuses on the physical location of the starch. This is, of course, entirely irrelevant when it comes to the consumption of food.

      • To observe a phase transition, one can cut up a sandwich without consuming it, thereby turning it into a salad; can drown a salad to turn it into a soup; can freeze a soup to turn it into a sandwich, etc.

      Shredded cheese is a salad.

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        While I think your system allows for some really odd edge cases, I like the way you think.

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        I mostly agree with these broad level classifications, except for sandwich. A sandwich refers to the construction (something sandwiched between something else) and also the intended method of consumption (no utensils and rarely a napkin). By your classification a 32oz steak is a sandwich, yet it must be consumed quite differently than an ice cream sandwich.

        I’d change the sandwich category to be the chunk category, and have sandwiches as a subcategory of chunks and salads where the food comes surrounded by edible material that’s easy to handle without utensils.

        There’s also the group of very thin soups that might deserve it’s own group, but that might just be a qualitive difference.

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      I don’t understand how pumpkin pie is toast, but cheesecake is a quiche. Shouldn’t they be the same whichever they are?

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        It’s hard to tell whether the difference is that the pumpkin pie crust is “slanted” while the cheesecake crust is vertical, or that the pumpkin pie is a single slice while a “quiche”-topology cheesecake is intended to be eaten whole.

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      I love that under this system the popular examples of type 4 ‘sushi’ includes no sushi, unlike type 1. That and in the process of eating something can cause it to change type.

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    I like this statement because it’s successful on two levels. You can also argue over whether “pop-tart” counts as one word or two.

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      I’ve never had a fruit salad with the consistency of salsa, but I see where you’re coming from. They are very close relatives.

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      Nah, this is just objectively wrong. Even if you think of tomato as a fruit, what else is a fruit in typical salsa? Nothing.

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        Not a staple where I’m from, but aren’t there japalenos in there? Bell peppers ?

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            “Vegetables” are not A Thing. The word just means a part of a plant we eat as a savoury dish. Some are seeds (like peas), or pods with the seeds still inside (green beans), or leaves (spinach, chard), roots or kinda-roots (carrots, garlic, beets), or (baby) flowers (cauliFLOWER, broccoli, Brussels sprouts - all from the same recent cabbage ancestor), lots are fruit (pumpkin, zucchini, cucumber, peppers, tomatoes). I found it fascinating when I planted my first garden 5 years ago, knowing squat about nature. Veggies are just plants where your pick the good part.

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              How are you defining a savoury? As a taste like sweet, salty, savoury, etc? Plenty of sweet (and salty, bitter and sour) dishes made with vegetables.

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      Not salad, salad is something you can “toss” in a jumble, like popcorn or some kinds of hash browns.

      Salsa is generally more thoroughly mixed than that, so smoothie or maybe soup.

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      I’d argue the way that ramen noodles are made is different enough. Spaghetti is just flour, water, and salt whereas ramen noodles can have an alkaline process (kansui) among other things. Spaghetti is also one type of noodle whereas ramen is a category with a fair bit of variety.

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          I’d argue the way that weebs are made is different enough. People are just flour, water, and salt whereas weebs can have an alkaline process (kansui) among other things.

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          If you’re saying I’m a weeb, that’s actually a first. I do live in Japan but don’t give a shit about anima or manga and have plenty of criticisms about life here.

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    Windows user freedom > Linux

    Ads have saved the internet

    Valve games suck

    Rs3 is better than osrs

    Cybersecurity Professionals are mostly useless

    I don’t believe all of these but I do know they would start a fight with at least me.

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      Those statements are great for starting fights because there’s an element of truth to them.

      Except the one about Valve games. If I get the apartment above yours in hell I will be moving furniture every day for that statement.

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      Windows user freedom > Linux

      I genuinely do not know how anyone could say this and not be trolling. Of course you don’t believe it, but I genuinely cannot see how anyone could

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        How is the second one in any way controversial? React is a huge part of the reason why jQuery is much less of a thing than it was ~10 years ago

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      It’s an acronym standing for graphic interchange format. Not that I care all that much tbh. Reminds me of parents naming their kid cVIIItlyn. Sure you can pronounce it whatever you want, doesn’t make you any less stupid. Also, iirc it was invented by a team, what do the rest of them say?

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        Only one guy is listed as the creator, Steve wilhite, who says “jif” is correct, famously and infamously making the pronouncement with a gif when he received his lifetime achievement award haha.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBtKxsuGvko

        Apparently, a common joke around his office was “choosy developers choose gif”, a play on jif commercials.

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        It’s an acronym standing for graphic interchange format.

        That doesn’t affect how it’s pronounced.

        LASER stands for Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation. If you were going to pronounce it based on how those words are pronounced it would be “Lahseer”.

        The best reason to pronounce “gif” with a hard g is that the closest word we have is “gift” and that uses a hard g.

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          Just wanna say I didn’t downvote you.

          I get your argument, maybe we SHOULD pronounce it lahseer, sounds cool.

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            Lahseer does sound cool, but I’m in favor of words being spelled as fonetikuhly as possible in English.

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              In order to do that, we have to clean up what each letter does first. The whole reason the gif fight started is because G and J overlap in sound values a lot. And don’t get me started on S, C, K, & Q.

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                And O.

                But, still, there are letters that have fairly consistent pronunciations. Where possible we should try to stick with those.

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                  I’ve given up on vowels. Mercedes, Echinacea, Manoeuvre, shield, beige, just throw them around until it looks right.

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      Isn’t there a video/gif asking if it’s pronounced “birthday jift”, “jolden retriever”, etc?

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        Gee, I’m sure there’s some genuinely genius gentleperson who registered their generous gif genuflections.